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	<title>Comments on: Why social networking sites need a business model first</title>
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		<title>By: Manish Mohan</title>
		<link>http://jinalshah.com/2009/02/19/why-social-networking-sites-need-a-business-model-first/comment-page-1/#comment-4369</link>
		<dc:creator>Manish Mohan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 08:39:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Magazines and publications have been doing what Yelp was trying to do for ages. Shouldn&#039;t be so surprised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Magazines and publications have been doing what Yelp was trying to do for ages. Shouldn&#8217;t be so surprised.</p>
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		<title>By: Aki Kuwabara</title>
		<link>http://jinalshah.com/2009/02/19/why-social-networking-sites-need-a-business-model-first/comment-page-1/#comment-4366</link>
		<dc:creator>Aki Kuwabara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:31:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Considering that the founders of Yelp were former employees of PayPal, their connection with Max Levchin, Peter Thiel, and other venture capitalists probably has facilitated the acquisition of venture funding.

I don&#039;t want to imply that their personal ties have somehow overridden the lack of viable business model in securing the venture funding - I am sure that the business model was sound enough to convince the investors.  However, looking at the allegations thrust upon them, it looks like Yelp&#039;s business model may not be too sound after all.

Given the current state of the economy, venture capitalists are becoming more discriminating with their funding.  We&#039;ll see whether Yelp will improve their strategy for generating revenues or falter and see the funding evaporate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Considering that the founders of Yelp were former employees of PayPal, their connection with Max Levchin, Peter Thiel, and other venture capitalists probably has facilitated the acquisition of venture funding.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want to imply that their personal ties have somehow overridden the lack of viable business model in securing the venture funding &#8211; I am sure that the business model was sound enough to convince the investors.  However, looking at the allegations thrust upon them, it looks like Yelp&#8217;s business model may not be too sound after all.</p>
<p>Given the current state of the economy, venture capitalists are becoming more discriminating with their funding.  We&#8217;ll see whether Yelp will improve their strategy for generating revenues or falter and see the funding evaporate.</p>
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		<title>By: Jinal Shah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jinal Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 18:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure what their business model was but in the light of things, I can venture a guess that the business model was based primarily on advertising. Esp. advertising from local businesses. I think that the fact that they are changing reviews does have to do with profitability of social networks because they were obviously driven to a point where their original business model in place (local ads) wasn&#039;t working. 

They figured that using a scare tactic like that would force more small businesses to advertise with them and it worked for a bit. Until, the small business owners realized it was not worth it. 

To their defense however, we did not know as much about community based business models when they launched as we do now. You should read my previous post about monetizing communities - I&#039;d love to hear your thoughts about that. 

I am sure they went to seek funding with a sound business model in place - but they have been around for a while and have obviously been paying attention to where communities, social media and social netowrks are going in general. Changing reviews - was not an efficient strategy. An efficient strategy would have been to figure out how to adapt their business model. 

I&#039;m not saying I have the answer but from my perspective, it looks like this turn of events was unnecessary and they could have easily avoided it by changing their strategy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what their business model was but in the light of things, I can venture a guess that the business model was based primarily on advertising. Esp. advertising from local businesses. I think that the fact that they are changing reviews does have to do with profitability of social networks because they were obviously driven to a point where their original business model in place (local ads) wasn&#8217;t working. </p>
<p>They figured that using a scare tactic like that would force more small businesses to advertise with them and it worked for a bit. Until, the small business owners realized it was not worth it. </p>
<p>To their defense however, we did not know as much about community based business models when they launched as we do now. You should read my previous post about monetizing communities &#8211; I&#8217;d love to hear your thoughts about that. </p>
<p>I am sure they went to seek funding with a sound business model in place &#8211; but they have been around for a while and have obviously been paying attention to where communities, social media and social netowrks are going in general. Changing reviews &#8211; was not an efficient strategy. An efficient strategy would have been to figure out how to adapt their business model. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying I have the answer but from my perspective, it looks like this turn of events was unnecessary and they could have easily avoided it by changing their strategy.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Daniels</title>
		<link>http://jinalshah.com/2009/02/19/why-social-networking-sites-need-a-business-model-first/comment-page-1/#comment-4361</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Daniels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 00:39:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thoughts.

Yelp had a business model in place well before the site was created. They were able to secure venture funding and angel investors appropriately. Whether they were able to fulfill on their model is questionable.

But the fact that they are allegedly changing reviews is a different story, one that has nothing to do with the profitability of social networks and social media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thoughts.</p>
<p>Yelp had a business model in place well before the site was created. They were able to secure venture funding and angel investors appropriately. Whether they were able to fulfill on their model is questionable.</p>
<p>But the fact that they are allegedly changing reviews is a different story, one that has nothing to do with the profitability of social networks and social media.</p>
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		<title>By: ring &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Constant Beta &#124; Why social networking sites need a business model &#8230;</title>
		<link>http://jinalshah.com/2009/02/19/why-social-networking-sites-need-a-business-model-first/comment-page-1/#comment-4360</link>
		<dc:creator>ring &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Constant Beta &#124; Why social networking sites need a business model &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:52:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Robert Seidman wrote an interesting post today onHere&#8217;s a quick excerptWith their new “Like and Share” features, it is diminishing my need to go to a digg.com or a reddit.com - and instead derive satisfaction from sharing items with MY friends. There has been a lot of debate abou their TOCs &#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Jinal Shah</title>
		<link>http://jinalshah.com/2009/02/19/why-social-networking-sites-need-a-business-model-first/comment-page-1/#comment-4359</link>
		<dc:creator>Jinal Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 23:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Dan - Thank you for your kind words. Really appreciate it. I checked out your blog as well - I&#039;m actually working on a presentation titled Customer Service 2.0. So your blog is very helpful :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Dan &#8211; Thank you for your kind words. Really appreciate it. I checked out your blog as well &#8211; I&#8217;m actually working on a presentation titled Customer Service 2.0. So your blog is very helpful <img src='http://jinalshah.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dan Waldron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Waldron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 22:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I finally decided to write a comment on your blog.  I just wanted to say good job.  I really enjoy reading your posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally decided to write a comment on your blog.  I just wanted to say good job.  I really enjoy reading your posts.</p>
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